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Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley, former Pentecostal pastor Kenny Burchard, and former Wesleyan Matt Swaim all came from very different theological backgrounds, but they all ended up finding a home in the Catholic Church. Each week, they take a look at a major issue or question they faced along the way, and share the series of events and discoveries that led them to embrace the Catholic faith.
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Wednesday May 17, 2023
On the Journey, Episode 124: How to Become Holy, Part V
Wednesday May 17, 2023
Wednesday May 17, 2023
Matt, Ken and Kenny continue their series on what it means to follow Christ and be transformed into his image in the process.
In this episode, they continue exploring the practical steps involved in the process of sanctification by looking at what happened to us in our baptisms. How exactly do we begin to break the hold that our unhealthy attachments, addictions and idols have on us so that we might attach ourselves more closely to Christ?
And what can we learn about all of these questions from the story of God’s deliverance of his people in the Exodus?
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Wednesday Apr 19, 2023
On the Journey, Episode 123: How to Become Holy, Part IV
Wednesday Apr 19, 2023
Wednesday Apr 19, 2023
Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard continue their series on what it means to follow Christ, and receive His promises as part of the Christian life. In this episode, Matt, Ken and Kenny begin to explore the practical steps involved in the process of sanctification.
How exactly do we begin to break the hold that our unhealthy attachments, addictions and idols have on us so that we might attach ourselves more closely to Christ?
And what can we learn about all of these questions from the story of God’s deliverance of his people in the Exodus?
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Wednesday Apr 12, 2023
On the Journey, Episode 122: How to Become Holy, Part III
Wednesday Apr 12, 2023
Wednesday Apr 12, 2023
Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard continue their series on what it means to follow Christ, and receive His promises as part of the Christian life.
Ken unpacks the story of Israel in Exodus as a pattern of sin and restoration that so many of us can relate to: we chase idols and mirages, which can never satisfy, while God wants us to turn to Him instead, to find perfect wholeness and joy.
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Wednesday Mar 29, 2023
On the Journey, Episode 121: How to Become Holy, Part II
Wednesday Mar 29, 2023
Wednesday Mar 29, 2023
Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the doctrine of Sanctification, asking the question: What is the process by which we as believers in Christ are changed into His likeness "from one degree of glory to another" (2 Corinthians 3:18)?
Ken digs into some foundational concepts related to what it means to be made in God's image (Gen 1:27), and why a God who doesn't need anything would create anything in the first place. But since He *did* create us, what were we created for? And is happiness a part of that question?
Ken (former Baptist pastor), Kenny (former Pentecostal pastor) and Matt (from the Wesleyan Holiness tradition) discuss how they viewed this question in their own traditions, and how they view it now as Catholics.
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Wednesday Mar 22, 2023
On the Journey, Episode 120: How to Become Holy, Part I
Wednesday Mar 22, 2023
Wednesday Mar 22, 2023
In Ephesians 4:22-24 St. Paul admonishes all believers to leave aside their old ways and to “put on the “new nature, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness.” How does this happen? How are we changed from the inside to become more like Jesus Christ?
In this series of “On the Journey,” Matt Ken and Kenny tackle these important questions and offer encouragement on how to experience the image of Christ being restored in us “from one degree of glory to another” (2 Corinthians 3:18).
In this first episode, they ask the question: what is the essential thing Jesus demands of those who would be his disciples? Is it to come to Him? Believe in Him? Follow Him? Obey Him? Love Him? Serve Him? What lies at the heart of all the various ways in which the call of Jesus is expressed in the Gospels?
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Wednesday Mar 01, 2023
On the Journey, Episode 119: Three Protestants Go to Mass, Part X
Wednesday Mar 01, 2023
Wednesday Mar 01, 2023
Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard conclude their series comparing their own experiences of leading Protestant worship gatherings with what they experienced when they began going to Mass.
To finish things off, they look at the Concluding Rites, what's being said in them, and what they say to the gathered congregation about what has just happened, and what their Christian responsibilities are moving forward.
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Wednesday Feb 22, 2023
Wednesday Feb 22, 2023
Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard continue their series comparing their own experiences of leading Protestant worship gatherings with what they experienced when they began going to Mass.
In this episode, they look back at the process of how Communion was distributed and received in the various contexts they came from -- Baptist, Pentecostal, Nazarene, and others -- and compare that with the way that the Eucharist is distributed and received in the context of a Catholic Mass.
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Wednesday Feb 15, 2023
Wednesday Feb 15, 2023
Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard continue their series comparing their own experiences of leading Protestant worship gatherings with what they experienced when they began going to Mass. This week, they dive into the Liturgy of the Eucharist, and specifically into a prayer (posted below) that really calls the Church to reflect on who She is, and what She means by the concept of Communion.
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Prayer:
Therefore, O Lord, as we celebrate the memorial of the saving Passion of your Son, his wondrous Resurrection and Ascension into heaven, and as we look forward to his second coming, we offer you in thanksgiving this holy and living sacrifice. Look, we pray, upon the oblation of your Church and, recognizing the sacrificial Victim by whose death you willed to reconcile us to yourself, grant that we, who are nourished by the Body and Blood of your Son and filled with his Holy Spirit, may become one body, one spirit in Christ. May he make of us an eternal offering to you, so that we may obtain an inheritance with your elect, especially with the most Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God, with blessed Joseph, her Spouse, with your blessed Apostles and glorious Martyrs and with all the Saints, on whose constant intercession in your presence we rely for unfailing help. May this Sacrifice of our reconciliation, we pray, O Lord, advance the peace and salvation of all the world. Be pleased to confirm in faith and charity your pilgrim Church on earth, with your servant N. our Pope and N. our Bishop, the Order of Bishops, all the clergy, and the entire people you have gained for your own. Listen graciously to the prayers of this family, whom you have summoned before you: in your compassion, O merciful Father, gather to yourself all your children scattered throughout the world. † To our departed brothers and sisters and to all who were pleasing to you at their passing from this life, give kind admittance to your kingdom. There we hope to enjoy for ever the fullness of your glory (He joins his hands.) through Christ our Lord, through whom you bestow on the world all that is good.† Therefore, O Lord, as we celebrate the memorial of the saving Passion of your Son, his wondrous Resurrection and Ascension into heaven, and as we look forward to his second coming, we offer you in thanksgiving this holy and living sacrifice. Look, we pray, upon the oblation of your Church and, recognizing the sacrificial Victim by whose death you willed to reconcile us to yourself, grant that we, who are nourished by the Body and Blood of your Son and filled with his Holy Spirit, may become one body, one spirit in Christ. May he make of us an eternal offering to you, so that we may obtain an inheritance with your elect, especially with the most Blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God, with blessed Joseph, her Spouse, with your blessed Apostles and glorious Martyrs and with all the Saints, on whose constant intercession in your presence we rely for unfailing help. May this Sacrifice of our reconciliation, we pray, O Lord, advance the peace and salvation of all the world. Be pleased to confirm in faith and charity your pilgrim Church on earth, with your servant N. our Pope and N. our Bishop, the Order of Bishops, all the clergy, and the entire people you have gained for your own. Listen graciously to the prayers of this family, whom you have summoned before you: in your compassion, O merciful Father, gather to yourself all your children scattered throughout the world. † To our departed brothers and sisters and to all who were pleasing to you at their passing from this life, give kind admittance to your kingdom. There we hope to enjoy for ever the fullness of your glory (He joins his hands.) through Christ our Lord, through whom you bestow on the world all that is good.†
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Wednesday Feb 08, 2023
Wednesday Feb 08, 2023
Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard continue their series comparing their own experiences of leading Protestant worship gatherings with what they experienced when they began going to Mass.
This week, they talk about a major aspect of the Mass that helps shed light on what Catholic worship is: anamnesis. What exactly are we doing when, at Christ's command, we celebrate the Last Supper in "remembrance" of Him?
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Wednesday Feb 01, 2023
Wednesday Feb 01, 2023
Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard continue their series comparing their own experiences of leading Protestant worship gatherings with what they experienced when they began going to Mass.
In this episode, they begin to dig into the various prayers that make up the Liturgy of the Eucharist, how they draw from and point back to Scripture, and how they reflect the worship of the earliest Christians.
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