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Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley, former Pentecostal pastor Kenny Burchard, and former Wesleyan Matt Swaim all came from very different theological backgrounds, but they all ended up finding a home in the Catholic Church. Each week, they take a look at a major issue or question they faced along the way, and share the series of events and discoveries that led them to embrace the Catholic faith.
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Wednesday Oct 18, 2023
On the Journey, Episode 133: What is the Church? Part VI
Wednesday Oct 18, 2023
Wednesday Oct 18, 2023
Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church.
This time around, they focus on Scriptural imagery of the Church as the body of Christ, as well as the bride of Christ.
As former Protestant pastors, how did Ken and Kenny think of those images?
And what does the Catechism of the Catholic Church have to say about the Church as Christ's body, as well as His bride?
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Wednesday Oct 04, 2023
On the Journey, Episode 132 – What is the Church? Part V
Wednesday Oct 04, 2023
Wednesday Oct 04, 2023
Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church.
When they were Evangelical pastors, how much did Ken and Kenny think about the Church as a continuation of the covenants God had made with his people throughout salvation history? Focusing on Catechism paragraphs 781-786, they share which Catholic teachings about the nature of the Church they would have affirmed wholeheartedly as Protestant ministers, and which aspects of those teachings were new to them once they began exploring Catholicism.
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Wednesday Sep 27, 2023
On the Journey, Episode 131 – What is the Church? Part IV
Wednesday Sep 27, 2023
Wednesday Sep 27, 2023
Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church.
The Catholic Catechism talks about the Church as being both earthly and heavenly, visible and invisible, hierarchical and mystical. In short, she is a "mystery" -- but what does the Church mean by that word?
Matt, Ken and Kenny look at how they thought about the mystery of the Church when they were Evangelicals, and how they think about those ideas now as Catholics.
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Wednesday Sep 20, 2023
On the Journey, Episode 130 – What is the Church? Part III
Wednesday Sep 20, 2023
Wednesday Sep 20, 2023
Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church.
In this episode, they walk through the Catechism’s section on the Church’s Origin, Foundation and Mission. Here we see the Church born of the eternal plan of God, developed in the Old Covenant people of God, instituted by our Lord Jesus in the New Covenant, revealed by the Holy Spirit on the Day of Pentecost, and finally perfected in glory.
We learn that Jesus didn’t simply call disciples to follow him; he founded a Church.
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Wednesday Sep 13, 2023
On the Journey, Episode 129 – What is the Church? Part II
Wednesday Sep 13, 2023
Wednesday Sep 13, 2023
Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church.
In this episode, they begin to examine the Catechism’s treatment of Article 9 of the Apostle’s Creed, “I believe in the Holy Catholic Church,” focusing on the Church’s inner nature.
What is communicated by saying that the Church is the called out assembly of the Lord, the sheepfold of Christ, the vine of His planting, a temple for God’s dwelling? Is there anything here that Matt, Ken and Kenny would not have said they believed before they ever thought of becoming Catholic?
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Tuesday Sep 05, 2023
On the Journey, Episode 128 - What is the Church? Part I
Tuesday Sep 05, 2023
Tuesday Sep 05, 2023
Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard begin a new OTJ series on the Church.
When Ken and Kenny were Evangelical pastors, what did they mean by the word "Church?" When Matt was attending different congregations, how did he understand them in relation to one another? Where did each of them get these understandings of what "the Church" is and how it works?
Matt, Ken and Kenny kick off the series by sharing the general ecclesiology of the Christian backgrounds each of them came from, and how they each began to see a need for a richer understanding of what Christ meant to do when he founded His Church.
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Wednesday Jun 28, 2023
On the Journey with Matt, Ken and Kenny - Summer Update
Wednesday Jun 28, 2023
Wednesday Jun 28, 2023
A special Summer message to our On the Journey family:
Over the Summer, we're taking a short break from recording new episodes while we plan our next big series, which will be all about The Church. Since Ken and Kenny were both Protestant pastors before they became Catholic, we'll talk about how they planned church services, what they meant by the word "church," and what they thought about the fact that there were a whole bunch of people in their towns who went to church, but didn't go to *their* churches. From there, we'll move on to spend some time looking at what the Catholic Church teaches about, well, the Catholic Church.
In the meantime, be sure to check out some of our other great Coming Home Network content:
Deep in Christ: https://www.deepinchrist.com
Insights: https://chnetwork.org/insights
Signposts: https://chnetwork.org/signposts-home
CHNetwork Presents: https://www.chnetwork.org/presents
Our written conversion story archive: https://www.chnetwork.org/story
Also, for those of you who are priests, deacons, or Catholic religious educators, we've just created a *brand new brochure* which we're offering free to parishes, that lets people who are interested in the Catholic Faith know what free resources we have available for them.
We'll even print up labels for you that you can put on the back of the brochure with info about who to get in touch with at your parish with questions about the Church!
If you'd like us to ship you some of those, send an email to info@chnetwork.org, with the subject line "brochure," and we'll set you up.
Finally, Summer will be done before you know it, and with the start of Fall comes the start of parish OCIA programs to help people into the Church. If you're entering one of those, we want to hear from you, either by email or in our online community, which you can join for free at https://community.chnetwork.org.
And if you're helping out with one of those programs at a parish, be sure to let everyone there know that the Coming Home Network was founded to help people like them, and we know what it's like to have a lot of mixed emotions about joining the Catholic Church, because we've been there!
Finally, all these resources are made available to you for FREE because of the generous support of faithful donors, and you can add your gifts to theirs at https://www.chnetwork.org/compass.
Thanks so much, and have a great Summer!

Wednesday Jun 21, 2023
On the Journey, Episode 127: How to Become Holy, Part VIII
Wednesday Jun 21, 2023
Wednesday Jun 21, 2023
Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard conclude their series on what it means to follow Christ and be transformed into his image in the process.
In this final episode, they summarize the entire series and add one crucial point that turns the truths and lessons into a path — a path that must be traveled, through the desert, to the land that flows with milk and honey.
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Wednesday May 31, 2023
On the Journey, Episode 126: How to Become Holy, Part VII
Wednesday May 31, 2023
Wednesday May 31, 2023
Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on what it means to follow Christ and be transformed into his image in the process.
In this episode, as they follow the Holy Spirit into the desert to be tested, tried and changed in the process, Matt, Ken and Kenny look at three gifts that God has given his people to help them on their journey.
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Wednesday May 24, 2023
On the Journey, Episode 125: How to Become Holy, Part VI
Wednesday May 24, 2023
Wednesday May 24, 2023
Matt, Ken and Kenny continue their series on what it means to follow Christ and be transformed into his image in the process.
In this episode, we follow the Holy Spirit into the desert to be tested and tried and changed in the process. Immediately after Our Lord’s baptism, he was led by the Holy Spirit into the desert.
It’s no coincidence that the Israelites' experience was the same; from their baptism in the Red Sea, the Holy Spirit led them into the desert. What was true for Jesus, and true for the Israelites, is true for us: the path to the Promised Land is a path that leads not around but through the desert.
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