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Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley, former Pentecostal pastor Kenny Burchard, and former Wesleyan Matt Swaim all came from very different theological backgrounds, but they all ended up finding a home in the Catholic Church. Each week, they take a look at a major issue or question they faced along the way, and share the series of events and discoveries that led them to embrace the Catholic faith.
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Wednesday Nov 19, 2025
Wednesday Nov 19, 2025
Matt, Ken, and Kenny continue their discussion about one of the most important questions a Christian can ask: what is the Gospel?
Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley shares some of the things he began to discover about Luther's development of the doctrine of salvation by faith alone.
Ken started to see that Luther's teaching was based on a specific set of key verses, but whenever Luther's conclusions were contradicted by some other part of Scripture, it required him to either dismiss those verses, or somehow modify their meaning so that they could fit into Luther's teaching.
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Wednesday Nov 12, 2025
Wednesday Nov 12, 2025
Matt, Ken, and Kenny continue their discussion about one of the most important questions a Christian can ask: what is the Gospel?
Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley shares how one of the most important distinctions a Christian can make in regard to faith and works is this: are we employees, working for a wage from God for our efforts, or are we patients, willingly allowing ourselves to be treated, and taking the steps to make healthy decisions as prescribed by our Great Physician?
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Wednesday Nov 05, 2025
Wednesday Nov 05, 2025
Matt, Ken, and Kenny continue their discussion about one of the most important questions a Christian can ask: what is the Gospel?
Throughout his letters, especially in his messages to the Galatians and Romans, St. Paul warns against boasting in a works-based righteousness.
So what kind of "works" was Paul talking about?
Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley dives into the text to demonstrate what it is that Paul was actually condemning when he spoke against the idea of salvation by works of the law.
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Wednesday Oct 29, 2025
Wednesday Oct 29, 2025
Matt, Ken, and Kenny continue their discussion about one of the most important questions a Christian can ask: what is the Gospel?
As a Baptist pastor, Ken Hensley was becoming more and more aware of the prominent Old Testament pattern of faith, followed by obedience, followed by reward, and he wondered: did this pattern continue in the New Testament, or was it replaced by "faith alone"?
Ken shares what he found when he looked more deeply into the teachings of Jesus in the Gospels, and St. Paul in his epistles, regarding the relationship between faith and works in the plan of salvation.
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Wednesday Oct 22, 2025
Wednesday Oct 22, 2025
Matt, Ken, and Kenny continue their discussion about one of the most important questions a Christian can ask: what is the Gospel?
As a Baptist pastor, Ken Hensley began to discover that his Reformation-inspired understanding of faith being rewarded by salvation, and followed by obedience, didn't match up with the pattern he saw in the Old Testament, of faith, followed by obedience, and then reward.
He shares how this began to shift his thinking as to what the Bible really taught about what it means to be saved.
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Wednesday Oct 15, 2025
Wednesday Oct 15, 2025
Matt Swaim talks to former Protestant pastors Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard about one of the most important questions a Christian can ask: what is the Gospel?
As a Baptist pastor, Ken Hensley believed and preached that salvation was by faith alone, apart from works, and that it is accomplished entirely by God; otherwise we could boast about our role in the process.
Ken shares how Martin Luther came to develop his theology of salvation by faith alone, the Scriptures he used to argue for it, and how it came into conflict with the prevailing historic Christian idea of humans cooperating with God's grace on the path to salvation.
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Wednesday Sep 24, 2025
Wednesday Sep 24, 2025
Matt, Ken, and Kenny conclude their series looking at the formal teaching of the Catholic Church on the doctrine of Purgatory.
They wrap up the discussion by focusing on how the Catholic Church really sees Purgatory at the end of the day: as a final purification in the presence of a person, that person being Jesus Christ, whose light dispels all darkness, and who desires eternal fellowship with us all.
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Wednesday Sep 17, 2025
Wednesday Sep 17, 2025
Matt, Ken, and Kenny continue their series looking at the formal teaching of the Catholic Church on the doctrine of Purgatory.
This time they address one of the biggest objections to the concept of Purgatory: the story of the thief on the cross, who died alongside Jesus and was promised paradise. He wasn't even baptized!
So how should we think of the Good Thief's story in the context of Catholic teaching on Purgatory?
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Wednesday Sep 10, 2025
Wednesday Sep 10, 2025
Matt, Ken, and Kenny continue their series looking at the formal teaching of the Catholic Church on the doctrine of Purgatory.
This time they address three key questions that people often have about Purgatory: Is it mentioned in Scripture? Is it a second chance for salvation after death? Is it a third place for those who neither merit Heaven nor deserve Hell?
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Wednesday Sep 03, 2025
Wednesday Sep 03, 2025
There are a lot of ideas out there about Purgatory, from pop culture, to literature, and more, and many of them come by way of myth, misunderstanding, and even memes.
So what does the Catholic Church actually officially teach about Purgatory?
Matt Swaim is joined by former Protestant pastors Kenny Burchard and Ken Hensley to look directly at the passages from the Catechism of the Catholic Church which formally address Purgatory, and look at the ways that Pope Benedict XVI explained this formal teaching in his encyclical Spe Salvi.
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