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Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley, former Pentecostal pastor Kenny Burchard, and former Wesleyan Matt Swaim all came from very different theological backgrounds, but they all ended up finding a home in the Catholic Church. Each week, they take a look at a major issue or question they faced along the way, and share the series of events and discoveries that led them to embrace the Catholic faith.
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Wednesday Jun 18, 2025
On the Journey, Episode 172: What Catholics and Pentecostals Have in Common, Part III
Wednesday Jun 18, 2025
Wednesday Jun 18, 2025
Order your copy of Journeys Home 3: Pentecostals and Charismatics
Former Foursquare pastor Kenny Burchard concludes his discussion of fifteen key commonalities between the beliefs and practices of Catholicism and Pentecostalism, as a way of hopefully having more fruitful conversations about the role of the Holy Spirit in the life of Christians.
In our final episode of the series, Kenny talks to Matt Swaim and Ken Hensley about five more elements common to Catholics and Pentecostals.
So far, we’ve discussed:
1. Belief in the manifest, or "real" presence of God in worship
2. Ongoing spiritual gifts, miracles, and signs
3. Charisms expressed through unique callings
4. God's word spoken, read, preached, and alive
5. Impartation through the laying on of hands
6. Apostolic authority and anointing
7. Holy places, objects, and sacraments as channels of grace
8. Dreams, visions, and mystical encounters
9. Spiritual warfare and real deliverance
10. Disciplines that lead to practical holiness
And in this episode, we discuss:
11. Fresh graces that follow initial conversion
12. The sobering reality of apostasy—and the call to perseverance
13. Breakthrough as the fruit of persistent, faithful prayer
14. Embodied worship: kneeling, lifting hands, incense, anointing with oil, song
15. A share in the priestly, prophetic, and kingly mission of Christ
This discussion continues in the new book available Summer 2025 from The Coming Home Network, "Journeys Home 3: Pentecostals and Charismatics," which features thirteen conversion stories from people who come from this spiritual tradition. Find out more at https://www.chnetwork.org/jh3.
Also mentioned was the Deep in History talk by Paul Thigpen, The Road From Topeka to Rome: How the Pentecostal Movement Has Brought Millions Closer to the Catholic Faith. Watch it for free here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7H7qJKD1dU&t
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