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Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley, former Pentecostal pastor Kenny Burchard, and former Wesleyan Matt Swaim all came from very different theological backgrounds, but they all ended up finding a home in the Catholic Church. Each week, they take a look at a major issue or question they faced along the way, and share the series of events and discoveries that led them to embrace the Catholic faith.
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Wednesday Oct 27, 2021
On the Journey with Matt and Ken, Episode 69: Wizard of Oz Apologetics, Part IV
Wednesday Oct 27, 2021
Wednesday Oct 27, 2021
Matt Swaim and Ken Hensley continue their series looking into ways to reframe conversations about faith with people who doubt or deny the existence of God.
Atheism that relies on pure scientific materialism has a morality problem.
That's not to say that atheists have a problem being moral; in fact, many atheists have an extremely well developed moral sense and care deeply about right and wrong. The problem is that pure atheistic materialism itself doesn't provide any kind of satisfying foundation for establishing moral categories.
Matt and Ken discuss how the tension caused by this dilemma can serve as a way to open deeper conversations about the basis for understanding morality, and the intrinsic value of the human person.
For more episodes, visit chnetwork.org/onthejourney.
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