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Former Baptist pastor Ken Hensley, former Pentecostal pastor Kenny Burchard, and former Wesleyan Matt Swaim all came from very different theological backgrounds, but they all ended up finding a home in the Catholic Church. Each week, they take a look at a major issue or question they faced along the way, and share the series of events and discoveries that led them to embrace the Catholic faith.
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Wednesday Nov 17, 2021
On the Journey with Matt and Ken, Episode 72: Wizard of Oz Apologetics, Part VII
Wednesday Nov 17, 2021
Wednesday Nov 17, 2021
Matt Swaim and Ken Hensley continue their series looking into ways to reframe conversations about faith with people who doubt or deny the existence of God.
Does consciousness exist, or is it merely an illusion? If scientific materialism is true, then how do we account for not just conscience, but consciousness? Is the idea that we are aware of our own sense of self something that scientific materialism can account for, or is it a question that goes beyond the realm of what the natural sciences are competent to pronounce upon?
Matt Swaim and Ken Hensley unpack these questions in their ongoing discussion about how to reframe conversations about God when talking to atheists.
For more episodes, visit chnetwork.org/onthejourney.
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